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i mean we mustn't lose sight of the fact that what happened in the arab region which started off in tunisia and then rapidly spread and swept the arab region particularly going through egypt which is one of the most and staunchest and closest ally of the united states was people actually. standing up to. dictatorship which where wholeheartedly and emphatically supported by the usa the majority of the regimes were chiddy true supporters and allies of the united states and the people in those countries where fed up to the back teeth and were sick and tired of this board and the unlimited unwavering support to those dictatorships by the united states we've seen it happening in tunisia and then the popular uprising a popular uprising spread to egypt and we've seen the united states that the obama taken aback and after a lot of posturing. and did that ring he withheld support to his name which actually upset one of the other most reliable irreplaceable allies of the united states. which thought that was the ultimate betrayal of another ally one of the. one of the closest allies of the united sta
i mean we mustn't lose sight of the fact that what happened in the arab region which started off in tunisia and then rapidly spread and swept the arab region particularly going through egypt which is one of the most and staunchest and closest ally of the united states was people actually. standing up to. dictatorship which where wholeheartedly and emphatically supported by the usa the majority of the regimes were chiddy true supporters and allies of the united states and the people in those...
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go ahead jump in going to jump in what we could see in tunisia is it exactly exactly i repeat. of what happened in egypt where the misnomer brotherhood is called another and we've seen actually the same forces which are the secular forces the x. . day. support is gathering got up and actually opposing and standing steadfastly determined to topple the party or the government which is led by party so what we're witnessing in tunisia is a. in egypt but going back to what had been the sit with the i don't understand agree these are you can see what what this it would these have done that is invade and occupy another country which is the home of the fifth we could have taken place without the full consent of the americans and what we've actually seen any amend this is backed up by the americans come up with their own initiative which ostensibly is called the gulf cooperate cult cooperation council initiative which is. the initiative to replace one dictator that is easy to end in a place and by another dictator which is a staunch ally. that is to protect its own backyard garden and t
go ahead jump in going to jump in what we could see in tunisia is it exactly exactly i repeat. of what happened in egypt where the misnomer brotherhood is called another and we've seen actually the same forces which are the secular forces the x. . day. support is gathering got up and actually opposing and standing steadfastly determined to topple the party or the government which is led by party so what we're witnessing in tunisia is a. in egypt but going back to what had been the sit with the...
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go ahead jump in i could jump in we could see in tunisia is it exactly exactly i repeat. here on what happened in egypt where the listener not brotherhood is called another and we've seen actually the same forces which are the secular forces the x. . day dictatorship so poor it is gathering got up and actually opposing and standing steadfastly determined to topple the party or the government which is led by party so what we're witnessing in tunisia is a. in egypt but going back to what had been the set with the idea of the i don't understand agree these are you can see what what this it would these have done that is invade and occupy another country which is the home of the fifth fleet could have taken place without the full consent of the americans and what we've actually seen any emend this is backed up by the americans come up with their own initiative which ostensibly is called the gulf cooperate cult cooperation council initiative which is there as. the initiative to replace one dictator that is easy to end in a place and by another dictator which is a staunch ally.
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jones in going to jump in what we could see in tunisia is it exactly exactly pete. here run off what happened in egypt whether misname up brotherhood it's called another and we've seen actually the same forces which are the secular forces the x. . day dictatorship support is gathering got up and actually opposing and standing steadfastly determined to topple the party or the government which is led by party so what we're witnessing in tunisia is what have. and in egypt but going back to what happened with the idea of the i don't i just don't understand agree that you can see what what this it would these have done that is invade and occupy another country which is the home of the fifth we could have taken place without the full consent of the americans and what we've actually seen any emend this is backed up by the americans come up with their own initiative which ostensibly is called the gulf cooperate cult cooperation council initiative which is. the initiative to replace one dictator that is easy to end in a place and by another dictator which is a staunch ally.
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tunisia $320 million. think it is unacceptable. we lost four individuals who gave their lives serving our country and some. have been some the thought that our government will give that foreign aid to the morsi government and not have the fbi and being given the access to that individual to is unacceptable. if you could keep the committee informed on the progress of the morsi government giving you access, i would appreciate it,. ann patterson told me she would raise it and she told me secretary kerry was going to raise it. i don't know if he did. if you could let me know in a week or two. >> i will do that. on friday, a federal judge in california declared the fbi oppose the use of national security letters unconstitutional,. i assume the department will pursue an appeal. do you have any comment on the fbi's use of national security national-security letters in a tool to protect national security? >> the arc critical tool. in terms of establishing pren invasive or more extensive investigations. without the ability to get informatio
tunisia $320 million. think it is unacceptable. we lost four individuals who gave their lives serving our country and some. have been some the thought that our government will give that foreign aid to the morsi government and not have the fbi and being given the access to that individual to is unacceptable. if you could keep the committee informed on the progress of the morsi government giving you access, i would appreciate it,. ann patterson told me she would raise it and she told me secretary...
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how about leaning on tunisia? >> how about leaning on tunisia? what he said was right, that's the law of tunisia, we cannot go in there and take this guy out when they are following the laws of the country he lives in. i don't know what you expect. you want -- i don't know if we have enough soldiers to take over tunisia? >> no one's saying to take over tunisia. but you can exert diplomatic pressure to turn him over. there are other ways to do that. >> i am sure they have done that. >> be creative. >> panetta's testimony, he pointed out that president obama wasn't in the room when all of this was going on. leon panetta made one phone and he wasn't sure how long it lasted -- >> there are more holes in the benghazi coverup story than in a block of swiss cheese. >> i was hoping for something better. >> i am working on t. the -- on the benghazi piece, we were led to believe that they were on top of it, 5:00 in the afternoon, they are having a meeting, having a meeting with the national security team at 5:00 p.m. and they were on top of it all night lo
how about leaning on tunisia? >> how about leaning on tunisia? what he said was right, that's the law of tunisia, we cannot go in there and take this guy out when they are following the laws of the country he lives in. i don't know what you expect. you want -- i don't know if we have enough soldiers to take over tunisia? >> no one's saying to take over tunisia. but you can exert diplomatic pressure to turn him over. there are other ways to do that. >> i am sure they have done...
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can you speak to the state of civil society in egypt, libya and tunisia? and to what extent is civil society being stifled, and that's, that can be for all of the panelists. >> regarding the point professor lust raised about that, if you ask egyptians, i am from egypt. regarding, when you ask egyptian what do you want, what do you wu understand about democracy, they say they're looking for more economic welfare. then jakob said that muslim brotherhood do care about economy, as they know how to run the country, but they wait until certain problems. and i find this very contradictory. you think the egyptians would wait for years, and then you say also that if you ask egyptian who elected muslim brotherhood they would reelect muslim brotherhood again. i don't think they can do that again if they have very, very, now we have like 40% poverty rate in egypt, among them i mean 40% of egyptians are poor. you think they're going to reelect ache in the muslim brotherhood if they are suffering more? >> other questions? >> hi. i'm from the middle east policy. actually
can you speak to the state of civil society in egypt, libya and tunisia? and to what extent is civil society being stifled, and that's, that can be for all of the panelists. >> regarding the point professor lust raised about that, if you ask egyptians, i am from egypt. regarding, when you ask egyptian what do you want, what do you wu understand about democracy, they say they're looking for more economic welfare. then jakob said that muslim brotherhood do care about economy, as they know...
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go ahead jump in if i could jump in we could see in tunisia is it exactly exactly i repeat. what happened in egypt where the misnomer brotherhood is called another and we've seen actually the same forces which are the secular forces the x. . day date the ship so poor it is gathering got up and actually posing and standing steadfastly determined to topple the party or the government which is led by that party so what we're witnessing at tunis here is a. in egypt but going back to what have been the sit with the i don't understand agree with you can see that what what this it would these have done that is invade and occupy another country which is the home of the fifth we could have taken place without the full consent of the americans and what we've actually seen any and this is backed up by the americans come up with their own initiative which ostensibly is called the gulf cooperate cult cooperation council initiative which is. the initiative to replace one dictator that is easy to end in a place and by another dictator which is a staunch ally. that is to protect its own bac
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but numbers aren't yet -- so in tunisia and egypt, you see -- you see sort of in tunisia you see one party that briefly ennahda and in egypt we have three major parties, or two major parties, the newer party. and this is and then on both sides, we have sort of more secularist, smaller-oriented party. in the election just to establish this, you see in egypt, and we're not talking about -- we are talking the seats the proportional of seats in each of the parliament election. you saw that the islamist party has almost 75%. in egypt while they have 45% in tunisia. so one -- what we sort of -- one of the defining factors for the success of the islamist parties in these two elections. if you look at sort of how the party lines played out in the election. first, the elections were both devoid by southern public policy. it was very little said about what our solution to the key problems of key economic problems, for example, of tunisia and egypt and so social problems and so on. the debate of the main debate in both of these elections were about what role should religion play in the states.
but numbers aren't yet -- so in tunisia and egypt, you see -- you see sort of in tunisia you see one party that briefly ennahda and in egypt we have three major parties, or two major parties, the newer party. and this is and then on both sides, we have sort of more secularist, smaller-oriented party. in the election just to establish this, you see in egypt, and we're not talking about -- we are talking the seats the proportional of seats in each of the parliament election. you saw that the...
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tunisia's military deserves credit for supporting and protecting the population during tunisia's democratic transition. the government continues to grapple with the threat of extremism. our assistance focuses on counterterrorism support, border security training and a continuation of long-standing programs such as the international military education and training program and foreign military financing. algeria has been a critical security partner. in particular, it is a linchpin in the struggle against al qaeda and its affiliates. the january 2013 terrorist attack against the oil facility highlighted the growing transnational threats in the region. algerian military continues to conduct successful operations on its southern border against aqim and affiliates. algeria provides training and equipment assistance to its neighbors, and tribute into broader regional efforts. dod engages with algeria across a range of activities to include information sharing and exercises. with morocco, the united states and morocco share a bilateral history of operations. morocco has been a partner in the strugg
tunisia's military deserves credit for supporting and protecting the population during tunisia's democratic transition. the government continues to grapple with the threat of extremism. our assistance focuses on counterterrorism support, border security training and a continuation of long-standing programs such as the international military education and training program and foreign military financing. algeria has been a critical security partner. in particular, it is a linchpin in the struggle...
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five weeks and we give tunisia $320 million? and finally. abu jamal set up the train camps in north africa for terrorists. we he haven't spoken to him either. >> when i egypt i gave them a letter specifically asking president morrisey to allow the fbi to interview the person they have in custody. has the fbi been given access to the individual jamal? egypt? >> no, not yet. >> and just last week secretary of state kerry gave the egyptians $250 million and last month a few f-16s to boot. now, cia director john brennan says we need to respect those countries and let them do their job. >> we press our partners and foreign governments to hold individuals and to allow us access to it. sometimes their laws do not allow you that to happen. i think the united states government has to respect these governments' right to in fact enforce their laws appropriately. >> judge jeanine: really? we give them money. we get nothing in return other than their hatred for americans and we are waiting, wishing and hoping? and what about the benghazi survivors? why h
five weeks and we give tunisia $320 million? and finally. abu jamal set up the train camps in north africa for terrorists. we he haven't spoken to him either. >> when i egypt i gave them a letter specifically asking president morrisey to allow the fbi to interview the person they have in custody. has the fbi been given access to the individual jamal? egypt? >> no, not yet. >> and just last week secretary of state kerry gave the egyptians $250 million and last month a few f-16s...
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tunisia man suspected of involvement, has been released from custody. we'll get reaction shortly from one of the administration's biggest critics on the issue. first, national security correspondent jennifer griffin has the story from the pentagon. >> four months to the day since ambassador chrissteins and three others were killed in a terror attack on the u.s. benghazi mission, one of the only suspects in custody has been released. 26-year-old, tunisia detained in turkey was released by tunsen court due to lack of evidence according to the lawyer. he was present in the attack on the u.s. mission, fox news reported in november. based on video that the u.s. intelligence agencies had from the compound. his brother fought against the u.s. forces in iraq and his father encouraged both suns tovo themselveses in jihad, according to the lawyer. the f.b.i. gained access to him in late december. allowed to question him, in what some described as kangaroo court filled with protesters for three hours. law enforcement officials say he was, "probably not a big playe
tunisia man suspected of involvement, has been released from custody. we'll get reaction shortly from one of the administration's biggest critics on the issue. first, national security correspondent jennifer griffin has the story from the pentagon. >> four months to the day since ambassador chrissteins and three others were killed in a terror attack on the u.s. benghazi mission, one of the only suspects in custody has been released. 26-year-old, tunisia detained in turkey was released by...
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in egypt and tunisia -- last year in november, we had a study and tunisia and egypt -- you sort of see one part ends -- the freedom and justice party and the newer party. on both sides you have a smaller and more oriented party. we are not talking about votes, we are not talking about that. we are talking about the seat with public relations so that the parties -- one party got 70% and the other got 45% in tunisia. one of the defining effects for the success of this party in the two nations -- well, if you look at how the party landscape laid out, the first thing is it is kind of devoid of public policy. there was little said about the key economic problems and this have to do with the social problems in tunisia and egypt as well. the main debate -- the debate in these elections both were about what role should religion play with the state. what is the influence of religion, and so on. so you have both of the parties placed -- the political access a sort of a revolution will -- um -- its local access -- a political access. voters vote for both parties that are set up, that have -- [ina
in egypt and tunisia -- last year in november, we had a study and tunisia and egypt -- you sort of see one part ends -- the freedom and justice party and the newer party. on both sides you have a smaller and more oriented party. we are not talking about votes, we are not talking about that. we are talking about the seat with public relations so that the parties -- one party got 70% and the other got 45% in tunisia. one of the defining effects for the success of this party in the two nations --...
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>> i didn't say that. >> how about leaning on tunisia. >> that's the law of tun neisit. we can't go in there and take him out when he is following the laws of the country he is in. i don't think we have enough soldiers to take over tunisia. >> we are not saying take over but you can exert pressure to turn him over. >> i am sure they have done that. >> go to leon pin nanetta's testimony. obama wasn't in the room panetta made one phone call he wasn't sure how long it lasted. >> there is more holes in the benghazi cover up story than a block of swiss cheese. >> hoping for something better. >> i am working on it. i am working on it. on the benghazi piece we were led to believe they were on top of it it's 5:00 in the afternoon they are having a meeting with the national security team at 5:00 p.m. they were on top of it all night long. then you got the testimony no never got a call. no matter who is in office the congressional branch that is what they are supposed to do to help us figure that out. i would say i think america is a lot safer today than afz september 10th, 2001,
>> i didn't say that. >> how about leaning on tunisia. >> that's the law of tun neisit. we can't go in there and take him out when he is following the laws of the country he is in. i don't think we have enough soldiers to take over tunisia. >> we are not saying take over but you can exert pressure to turn him over. >> i am sure they have done that. >> go to leon pin nanetta's testimony. obama wasn't in the room panetta made one phone call he wasn't sure how...
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in tunisia, although we protected our embassy, our school was badly damaged. we have to take a broader view. the a.r.b. gives us a start. it is not the whole story. >> thank you secretary clinton for yourto securing america's place in the world the past four years. and your contributions to world peace. the first question these do with accountability review board report that identifies specifically people who were found to have engaged in the department and systematic failures and deficiencies. i want to be clear. you were not one those people, is that correct? >> that is correct. it was said great a report in the 1990's the secretary should take an active role in security. have you done that at state department? >> i am very attuned to the environment in which threats are occurring, the intelligence that is available. >> is there anyone now in existence who is responsible for reviewing the itineraries of ambassadors in advance in order to determine whether there is a threat to their safety? >> the general answer is "no." ambassadors are given what is calls ch
in tunisia, although we protected our embassy, our school was badly damaged. we have to take a broader view. the a.r.b. gives us a start. it is not the whole story. >> thank you secretary clinton for yourto securing america's place in the world the past four years. and your contributions to world peace. the first question these do with accountability review board report that identifies specifically people who were found to have engaged in the department and systematic failures and...
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the median age in tunisia, which has turned the demographic corner, is 30. in morocco and algeria, it's 27, and in libya it's 24. so the latter three suffer more from that structural youth bulge problem. of in tunisia it's more about unemployed university graduates that's the destabilizing factor demographically. four very quick, four very quick points. the revolution, during the revolution in libya almost every community liberated itself, and that's why the militias are community-based. except tripoli which 80% liberated itself this 24 hours in august -- in 24 hours in ahing 2011, and then the citizens of misrata finished off with the help of nato and never left. so one of the things that's unique about tripoli is you had foreign militias that never left. so kicking the misrattans out is progress, but it doesn't solve any other problem except that civilians across libya insofar as they have other problems with militias will see this as an example. but this was the only problem of militias from somewhere else. a second point is that there was some work done
the median age in tunisia, which has turned the demographic corner, is 30. in morocco and algeria, it's 27, and in libya it's 24. so the latter three suffer more from that structural youth bulge problem. of in tunisia it's more about unemployed university graduates that's the destabilizing factor demographically. four very quick, four very quick points. the revolution, during the revolution in libya almost every community liberated itself, and that's why the militias are community-based. except...
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i called the president of tunisia and said you have to send reinforcements right now. our embassy is going to be over run. he sent it. it stopped. the government has been responsive understanding the terrorists do not just threaten us in western countries, they threaten the stability and the future of the governments. we have to help them the way we helped colombia years ago. finally, we need to do a better job conveying a counter narrative to the extremist jihadist narrative. i have said to this committee before with a lot new members on it, we have abdicated broadcasting arena. yeses we have private stations, cnn, fox, nbc, all of that, they are out there, they convey information but we are not doing what we did during the cold war. our broadcasting board of governors is practically defunct in terms of capacity to be able to tell a message around the world. we are abdicating the ideological arena. we need to get back into it. we have the best values and best narrative. most people in the world just want to have a good, decent life that is supported by a good decent j
i called the president of tunisia and said you have to send reinforcements right now. our embassy is going to be over run. he sent it. it stopped. the government has been responsive understanding the terrorists do not just threaten us in western countries, they threaten the stability and the future of the governments. we have to help them the way we helped colombia years ago. finally, we need to do a better job conveying a counter narrative to the extremist jihadist narrative. i have said to...
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in tunisia although we protected our embassy, our school was badly damaged. so we have to take a broader view. and i think that the arb gives us a start, but it's not the whole story. >> mr. grayson from florida. >> thank you, mr. chairman. and thank you very much, secretary clinton, for your contributions to securing america's place in the world for the past four years and for your contributions towards world peace. the first question i'd like to ask you has to do with the accountability review report. the report does identify specifically people who were found to have endangered in the department in systemic failures and inefficiencies. i want to be clear. you were not one of those people, is that correct? >> that's correct. >> now, it was identified a report dating from the 1990s had said that the secretary should take a personal and active role in security. have you done that during your four years at the state department? >> i have been very attuned to the environment in which threats are occurring, the intelligence that is available. certainly not the s
in tunisia although we protected our embassy, our school was badly damaged. so we have to take a broader view. and i think that the arb gives us a start, but it's not the whole story. >> mr. grayson from florida. >> thank you, mr. chairman. and thank you very much, secretary clinton, for your contributions to securing america's place in the world for the past four years and for your contributions towards world peace. the first question i'd like to ask you has to do with the...
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the man released in tunisia, do you think we had anything on him or not? the reasoning i intervened is because i was told this is a leading suspect in attack on the consulate. why did i have to do that? why didn't you call them. when the ambassador was attacked in june of this year and they closed their consulate did you know about it and why did we keep ours open? we are just scratching the service. nothing could be further from the truth about us running out of questions. >> you did have some answers. >> one. >> bret: what was that? >> i asked did you pick up the phone to call a libya official for september 11 in the attack? he said after a two-page letter from the lawyer, no. he called them the next day after they were dead. the rescue team was held up in the benghazi ain't for 3-1/2 hours frying to get to the annex and help these people. i believed that if the president picked up the phone there is no voice in world like that of the president of the united states that could have made a difference. he never called anybody in libya or talked to the secre
the man released in tunisia, do you think we had anything on him or not? the reasoning i intervened is because i was told this is a leading suspect in attack on the consulate. why did i have to do that? why didn't you call them. when the ambassador was attacked in june of this year and they closed their consulate did you know about it and why did we keep ours open? we are just scratching the service. nothing could be further from the truth about us running out of questions. >> you did...
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tunisia and libya have undergone intense violent change. dissipating in a national dialogue, and the tunisians seem committed to a democratic process, but in each of these countries, there is significant work to do. there is regional debate about ofountability, transparency reforms, the effectiveness of government programs, economic liberalization of the world religion and military in public life, while the political and societal debates will go on for a long time, as they do here. the deterioration of security conditions recently has raised important questions and has raised the stakes certainly for local citizens and communities and also for the united states and our interest. violent extremist groups appear to be exploiting borders in the region, and the weakness of security forces across north africa well along with the al anda, it is serious, capitalizing also on divisive identity issues as well as popular frustrations with the slow pace of reforms in these transitional states. qim, we will have testimony about this, does not seem to p
tunisia and libya have undergone intense violent change. dissipating in a national dialogue, and the tunisians seem committed to a democratic process, but in each of these countries, there is significant work to do. there is regional debate about ofountability, transparency reforms, the effectiveness of government programs, economic liberalization of the world religion and military in public life, while the political and societal debates will go on for a long time, as they do here. the...
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this is spreading outward from tunisia, and then libya, and egypt which is still with us, and now being into the heart of the middle east, and i'm afraid it is just going to get worse. >> perhaps legacy is too long-term of a word, because we're still in the short-term years after gadhafi's overthrow, but how much is that playing into the minds of syrians? >> there is an understanding that libya would have been very different if thanks were not different. and i think that's kind of the concern in syria, and the feeling without any real military intervention this could become a prolonged civil war with more deaths and displacement of people. there is a hope that eventually an intervention similar to libya would happen in syria from a strong group of people in syria. >> it [ inaudible ] libya teaches one thing. a strong -- or a light military intervention not targeted precisely, because in the beginning they were talk about protecting civilians, but there was not plan of something to do after the regime was overthrown. so if you do the same thing in syria, and the president seems to be not
this is spreading outward from tunisia, and then libya, and egypt which is still with us, and now being into the heart of the middle east, and i'm afraid it is just going to get worse. >> perhaps legacy is too long-term of a word, because we're still in the short-term years after gadhafi's overthrow, but how much is that playing into the minds of syrians? >> there is an understanding that libya would have been very different if thanks were not different. and i think that's kind of...
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no one died in tunisia. there was more than a threat against our consulate in benghazi. there was an ambassador and one other already dead. you had seven hours to come to their aid. but at least you were clear eyed about your mission. >> if you were clear eyed, why did your department reject the request for 16 additional security agents? if you were clear eyed, shouldn't you have known there was no real libyan government to turn to? if you were clear eyed, shouldn't you have known that al qaeda roam freely in and around benghazi? were you clear when the brits left benghazi after the attack? >> jeanine: your best pivot in the dance we call politics is why you weren't interviewed regarding the reactions of the state department. >> if they thought i was relevant or had informs that would have helped the investigation, i would have gladly discussed that with them at their request. >> jeanine: how did they know you didn't have relevant information? hell, you were the head of the department of state! -- of the secretary of state. you were in the situation room. you met the cof
no one died in tunisia. there was more than a threat against our consulate in benghazi. there was an ambassador and one other already dead. you had seven hours to come to their aid. but at least you were clear eyed about your mission. >> if you were clear eyed, why did your department reject the request for 16 additional security agents? if you were clear eyed, shouldn't you have known there was no real libyan government to turn to? if you were clear eyed, shouldn't you have known that al...
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the national correspondent joins us live from tunisia. why did they release him and do they suspect he's part of 9/11 or not. >> hi, well, i think that they released him because the evidence against him was largely circumstantial. there are a lot of reasons to be suspicious this have man. he spent time in prison and a few years back on charges of wanting iraq, jihad there. and he was in nabir at the time and questioned whether he was planning to go to syria and fight there. but i think ultimately, they didn't have anything solid on him. >> greta: the fbi finally, our fbi are finally able to question him. do you have any information now on your end in tunisia, what information he gave them? we're getting nothing on this end. >> well, no, i mean, the americans have certainly been in touch and cagey about what actually took place and the tunisia not discussing it in any detail. and what's interesting, an extremist group here in sharia and published photographs of the fbi agents allegedly did the questioning on one of their official media net
the national correspondent joins us live from tunisia. why did they release him and do they suspect he's part of 9/11 or not. >> hi, well, i think that they released him because the evidence against him was largely circumstantial. there are a lot of reasons to be suspicious this have man. he spent time in prison and a few years back on charges of wanting iraq, jihad there. and he was in nabir at the time and questioned whether he was planning to go to syria and fight there. but i think...
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director mueller was in libya and tunisia recently. i get disappointed when people give half of the story. the guy has been released. as hillary clinton said today, yes, but he's under constant surveillance within tunisia and following the rule of law and as more evidence becomes available, they are prepared to act on him again. i think as hillary clinton said dramatically, our focus here now is to bring these guys to justice but also to understand benghazi in the context of what's happening over the last few days to understand the evolving threat from al qaeda and to deal appropriately with that. >> dana loesch there were phone calls today that they would have been fired. do you agree with that? >> there were a lot of missteps here. we do know that you had said that there was a whisper of questioning susan rice and secretary of state clinton. i don't think asking questions on why talking points were changed, we know for sure the u.s. intelligence report came out and said extremists that led the attack had al qaeda ties. why was that r
director mueller was in libya and tunisia recently. i get disappointed when people give half of the story. the guy has been released. as hillary clinton said today, yes, but he's under constant surveillance within tunisia and following the rule of law and as more evidence becomes available, they are prepared to act on him again. i think as hillary clinton said dramatically, our focus here now is to bring these guys to justice but also to understand benghazi in the context of what's happening...
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point of the only personut ever accused of doing anything on this benghazi stuff was the fellow in tunisia who has now been let go. released and what do you have to say about that she mumbled her answer on that one. other than that, i thought it d t of mumbled her answer on that one. other than that, i thought was was possibility, and the four got killed. >> jon: and she asks what matters now? well, the context matters because it mattered then before an election, right? >> normally people more pathetic than the people in the media are members of congress, they could have said, you just laid out two scenarios that never happened and that nobody was ever talking about. so, she mentioned the protesters, but that wasn't the alternative. like the alternative is terrorism. you know, so, the fact that-- to a certain extent the media can't create that story, they're covering the questioning. if the questioners can't do the questioning, i don't know what the media is suppose today report. >> and she seemed to try to blame the republicans for cutting security funding or not providing enough security
point of the only personut ever accused of doing anything on this benghazi stuff was the fellow in tunisia who has now been let go. released and what do you have to say about that she mumbled her answer on that one. other than that, i thought it d t of mumbled her answer on that one. other than that, i thought was was possibility, and the four got killed. >> jon: and she asks what matters now? well, the context matters because it mattered then before an election, right? >> normally...
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. >> woodruff: and, with promises of tunisia's revolution unfulfilled, pressure mounts to
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he went to tunisia. he beliefs that the investigation is proceed iing. i know the fbi has been on the hill doing briefings with certain committees. i don't know about this committee. but i certainly hope that the fbi is able to investigate, identify, and hold responsible those who waged this attack against us. and i think based on their work, they feel that they are pursuing some very positive leads. >> okay. my understanding is the tunisian person who was held was released by a judge there. and that person has been released. so basically we don't really know at this point who did it. >> well, congressman, i confirmed with director muller who was just in tunisia meeting with their high officials that this person is basically under law enforcement surveillance. and forbidden to leave. director muller told me that that had been confirmed to him by the tunisians. >> all right. just very briefly, we don't know who -- no one's been held accountable, charged with this offense. before gadhafi was taken out, my understanding is the nation of qatar shipped in 18
he went to tunisia. he beliefs that the investigation is proceed iing. i know the fbi has been on the hill doing briefings with certain committees. i don't know about this committee. but i certainly hope that the fbi is able to investigate, identify, and hold responsible those who waged this attack against us. and i think based on their work, they feel that they are pursuing some very positive leads. >> okay. my understanding is the tunisian person who was held was released by a judge...
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i don't know if we have enough soldiers to take over tunisia. >> no one is saying that. but you can t exert certainly diplomatic pressure to try and get them to turn him over. there is otherip ways -- >> i'm sure they've done that. >> dana, let's go to leon panetta testimony. he pointed out that president obama wasn't, in t fact, in theh room when all this was going on, that leon panetta made one phone call and he wasn't sure how long it lasted, but -- >> there is more holes in the benghazi cover-up story than a block of swiss cheese. >> i was hoping for something better. [ laughter ] >> i'm h working on it. on the benghazi piece, we were led to believe that they were on top of t it, 5:00 o'clock in the afternoon, they're having a a meeting andg they were on top of it all night long. then four months later,ig you gr the testimony that says, well, actually no, i never got a call. that's why congressional testimony is very important, no matter who is in office, the congressional branch that is what they are supposed to do tot help us figure that out. i wouldo say i do thin
i don't know if we have enough soldiers to take over tunisia. >> no one is saying that. but you can t exert certainly diplomatic pressure to try and get them to turn him over. there is otherip ways -- >> i'm sure they've done that. >> dana, let's go to leon panetta testimony. he pointed out that president obama wasn't, in t fact, in theh room when all this was going on, that leon panetta made one phone call and he wasn't sure how long it lasted, but -- >> there is more...
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tunisia already had it. the occupy tour was ongoing in libya and syria was just erupting. and you had a couple thousand saudi and emirates troops marching into our brain to quell the unrest there. all of this happening at the same time while we are on this flight to paris in the u.s. is coming under intense pressure to do something about libya where mahmoud abbas he was threatening to level the town, the city of benghazi. that takes me to the first question you asked about, it's all fast moving and how do you make sure you're not taking any mistakes? you don't have the luxury to stop. you have to handle it all at the same time. it's this one tiny little window into how dynamic it is to address all those challenges. hillary clinton goes to paris to try to assess where everybody is on the issue of libya because this administration is not going to get involved in any sort of military intervention unilaterally. there is no repeat of that and the administration and they don't want to be leading the charge and then find out that everybody is way back in the back and criticizing
tunisia already had it. the occupy tour was ongoing in libya and syria was just erupting. and you had a couple thousand saudi and emirates troops marching into our brain to quell the unrest there. all of this happening at the same time while we are on this flight to paris in the u.s. is coming under intense pressure to do something about libya where mahmoud abbas he was threatening to level the town, the city of benghazi. that takes me to the first question you asked about, it's all fast moving...
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it is troubling that tunisia recently released a key suspect. poor libyan cooperation has hampered the fbi's investigation. success here is a matter of justice. and it is also a matter of signaling to militants that there is no place for them to hide if they attack u.s. personnel. i will now turn to the distinguished ranking member, mr. engle, for his opening remarks. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman, for holding this important meeting. i hope we can use this as an opportunity to seriously examine the steps we need to take to prevent a repeat of a tragedy in benghazi, rather than engaging in gotcha politics that make it more difficult to achieve this bipartisan goal. madam secretary, as the new ranking member on the foreign affairs committee, let me say on behalf of the democratic members of this committee we would like to welcome you back to our committee, and we're glad you're feeling better. this will likely be your final appearance before our committee, and i want to take this opportunity to let you know how much we appreciate your outst
it is troubling that tunisia recently released a key suspect. poor libyan cooperation has hampered the fbi's investigation. success here is a matter of justice. and it is also a matter of signaling to militants that there is no place for them to hide if they attack u.s. personnel. i will now turn to the distinguished ranking member, mr. engle, for his opening remarks. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman, for holding this important meeting. i hope we can use this as an opportunity to...
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you compare that with tunisia, which is not violence-free and not perfect i any means, but engaged in largely nonviolent protests. this is the difference between a country that overthrows a government largely nonviolently, all the it inspired by a suicide, compared to where massive violence is used. you can switch it off like a light switch. you can't switch off the resentment. it will be there for years. >> and it is very important on this too-year anniversary to really look at libya as a country right now and look at u.s. involvement in it. but you kind of understand what our impact is when we go enter these countries, whether we put soldiers on the ground or not. thank u so much. >> thank you. >> breaking news now coming out of syria. an explosion near the international airport in damascus cause the capital much of the southern part of syria to go dark. power was cut after a guess on at the airport was hit by ruvell -- by rebel artillery. the extent of the outage was not in merely clear. but the electricity minister says maintenance crews are working to restore power. since its inc
you compare that with tunisia, which is not violence-free and not perfect i any means, but engaged in largely nonviolent protests. this is the difference between a country that overthrows a government largely nonviolently, all the it inspired by a suicide, compared to where massive violence is used. you can switch it off like a light switch. you can't switch off the resentment. it will be there for years. >> and it is very important on this too-year anniversary to really look at libya as...
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>> i didn't say that, bob. >> how about leaning on tunisia. >> what brennan said is exactly right. that's the law of due knee is a. we cannot go in there and take this guy out when they're following the laws of the country that he lives in or that he's in. >> no one can take over due nearby. you can exert diplomatic pressure to try to turn him over. there's other ways to go around that. >> i'm sure they've done that. >> be creative. >> it shouldn't matter. >> he pointed out that president obama wasn't, in fact, in the room when all this was going on, that leon panetta made one phone call and he wasn't sure how long it lasted lasted. >> there's more holes in the benghazi cover up story than in a block of swiss cheese. >> well, i was hoping for something better. >> okay. i'm working on it. on the benghazi piece, we were led to believe that they were on top of it at 5:00 in the afternoon, they were in a meeting at the national security team at 5 p.m. and they were on top of it all night long. and then four months later you get the testimony that says well, actually, no, i never got a
>> i didn't say that, bob. >> how about leaning on tunisia. >> what brennan said is exactly right. that's the law of due knee is a. we cannot go in there and take this guy out when they're following the laws of the country that he lives in or that he's in. >> no one can take over due nearby. you can exert diplomatic pressure to try to turn him over. there's other ways to go around that. >> i'm sure they've done that. >> be creative. >> it shouldn't...
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we have had attacks on the embassy in tunisia. on september 14. you had the flag flying in egypt. you had all of the attacks on u.s. interest throughout the region with basically no response from the u.s. government. i don't think there is any question that they are emboldened. the key thing to remember here. we talk about this last night. the groups have been growing in strength over the past several years. this is not the first person to do it. the commander in july said, "the u.s. government missed an opportunity to deal with al-qaeda in the aqim when they had a chance." that devastating indictment from the administration. >> bret: we will hear more about the policy arguments ahead of secretarybe clinton testifying january 23 about benghazi, too. that is it for the panel. but stay tuned to see a video that may be too close for comfort. living with moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis means living with pain. it could also mean living with joint damage. humira, adalimum, can help treat more than just the pain. for many adults, humira is clinically proven to help relieve pain a
we have had attacks on the embassy in tunisia. on september 14. you had the flag flying in egypt. you had all of the attacks on u.s. interest throughout the region with basically no response from the u.s. government. i don't think there is any question that they are emboldened. the key thing to remember here. we talk about this last night. the groups have been growing in strength over the past several years. this is not the first person to do it. the commander in july said, "the u.s....
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you see resistance to becoming more political, where is in tunisia it is so blurred that it is difficult to tell. i would say anything huge positive, civil society is very clear on what they want. they want to accountable government. as a happening at the pace they would let? definitely not. if you look at the recent polling, it organizations in this room sponsored them, there is optimism that while things are worthing -- moving slowly, there's an appreciation the democracies went take an insanely long time. to your question, i think the little framework question is key. how can they operate on the national level ones that legal framework is in place? it makes it easier for them to go and take larger national level actions. advocacy is a huge issue. there is a lot of civil society issues that are passionate. they want to influence the decision, and the immediate response is we will protests. systematically, understanding where decisions are made, who are the influencers, what are the structures that we need to work through to impact a larger scale decision, that is missing. hunting a way
you see resistance to becoming more political, where is in tunisia it is so blurred that it is difficult to tell. i would say anything huge positive, civil society is very clear on what they want. they want to accountable government. as a happening at the pace they would let? definitely not. if you look at the recent polling, it organizations in this room sponsored them, there is optimism that while things are worthing -- moving slowly, there's an appreciation the democracies went take an...